From: NOS Date: 2009-11-04
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 USNATO 000501 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/4/2019 TAGS: MARR, MOPS, NATO, PGOV, PREL, AF SUBJECT: DUTCH SAY U.S. AFGHANISTAN MESSAGE MUST BE A STRONG ONE Classified By: Classified by Ambassador Ivo Daalder for Reasons 1.4(b) & (d) 1. (C) Summary. In a November 3 meeting, Dutch PM Cabinet Director Richard van Zwol told USNATO Ambassador Daalder the Dutch were in a political deadlock over their Afghanistan contributions and the Prime Minister was attempting to unlock it. He urged the US to deliver a strong message privately in the next few weeks to help the DUtch government in its efforts to revise its Afghanistan policy. Van Zwol reassured the Ambassador that media reporting on the November 2 meeting between the German and Dutch FMs that suggested the two Allies were pursuing the issue of nuclear weapons forward-basing bilaterally were inaccurate. Van Zwel said Dutch FM Verhagen stressed with his German counterpart that the debate regarding nuclear weapons on European soil had to be conducted in the context of NATO. End Summary. --------------------------------- Staying the Course in Afghanistan --------------------------------- 2. (C) In a frank discussion about the Dutch contribution to the ISAF mission, the Ambassador explained to Van Zwol, Dutch PM Foreign Policy and Defense Asvisor Karel van Oosterom, and Dutch Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO Jan Versteeg that the United States had not made its final decision about resourcing issues in Afghanistan, but would stay the course until significant progress was achieved. The Ambassador noted that the United States wanted the Netherlands to remain as well and would convey strong message to Dutch leaders in that regard in the month ahead. It would be hard to explain a Dutch withdrawal just as the US and others were stepping up their contributions to the mission. Van Zwol said the Dutch were in a political deadlock and the Prime Minister was attempting to unlock it. He urged the US to deliver a strong message privately in the next few weeks; no other type of message would work. The US should emphasize in its discussions with Dutch leaders that the push now will be on progress in the next 12-18 months, with the view to transferring responsibility to the Afghans as soon as possible. In order to get a positive decision to stay, the Dutch Labor Party, which is the main stumbling block in the coalition government, would need to be able to point to a new situation to explain any change in policy. Greater emphasis on a transfer to Afghan lead and on moving from combat to training would help, as might the announcement of a new approach by the Obama administration. 3. (C) Van Zwol and Oosterom confirmed that the Dutch would not be a lead nation under any circumstances and warned it would be extremely difficult to remain in Uruzgan. The Ambassador said he was hopeful that the Dutch would keep their troop contributions in the four-digit range, leave their enablers, and send more trainers. Pulling out of Uruzgan, given the Dutch investment in the province and the ISAF focus on counter-insurgency, would be a waste of the collective wisdom and trust they had built there over th eyears. Van Zwol suggested it was best to focus first on a Dutch commitment to remain and then discuss where they might deploy. 4. (C) Van Zwol also advised that, when discussing Afghanistan with Dutch Finance Minister Bos, it would be useful for the United States to make the issue personal for him. Van Zwol said Bos would respond well to the idea that remaining in Afghanistan is an issue of leadership for a Deputy Prime Minister of a party with a proud history. Van Zwol also suggested that Bos has future ambitions, and the United States should point out that he should not lose international credibility by insisting on the Dutch withdrawal from Afghanistan at this critical moment. ------------------------ NATO and Nuclear Weapons ------------------------ USNATO 00000501 002 OF 002 5. (C) Ambassador Daalder used the meeting to ask for clarification on Dutch FM Verhagen's November 2 meeting with new German FM Westerwelle, and whether the Dutch were planning a unilateral, bilateral, or trilateral (with the Belgians) effort to remove US nuclear weapons from European soil. Van Zwol explained that, while a nuclear free world was a matter of personal interest to FM Verhagen, the Dutch would address the issue of forward-basing of US nuclear weapons in the multilateral context of NATO only. Noting that the Germans had opened Pandora's box on the issue of US nuclear weapons in Europe, Van Zwol assured the Ambassador there was no Dutch/Belgian/German cabal to deal with the issue. For the past several decades, NATO Allies had not discussed the issue so as not to rock the boat. The new German coalition agreement changed that, he said, by firmly and openly calling for frank discussions on NATO's nuclear weapons policy. DAALDER