From: Aftenposten
Date: 27.10.2006

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 BEIJING 022825
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/27/2031 
TAGS: PHUM, KIRF, PGOV, CH 
SUBJECT: BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR 
DIALOGUE; RAISE TIBET SHOOTING INCIDENT
REF: BEIJING 21795
 

Classified By: Classified by Political Internal Unit Chief
Susan Thornton. Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

1. (C) Summary: The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights
dialogue took place October 19 in Beijing, with special
emphasis on freedom of expression, criminal justice reform and
combating racism. Chinese officials denied that censorship
exists, challenged the basis for some of UN Special Rapporteur
on Torture Nowak's conclusions, said China probably will not
ratify the ICCPR without making an exception to allow
Reeducation-Through-Labor, and ascribed the September 30
shooting of Tibetans to "normal border guard behavior." The
Canadian, Swedish, Australian, Swiss, German, Norwegian and
New Zealand Embassies have raised, or plan to raise, the Tibet
incident with Chinese officials. Politburo member Jia Qinglin
told Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that religion can
play an important role in China's efforts to build a
"harmonious society." Jia also stated that the China-UK human
rights dialogue will not be cut back to one round per year.
End Summary.

EU Human Rights Dialogue
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2. (C) The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue on
October 19 was largely "business as usual," reported Finnish
Embassy XXXXX. Ambassador Tom Gronberg of Finland, which
currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, led the EU
delegation in meetings covering a range of issues including
freedom of expression, criminal justice reform and combating
racism.

3. (C) On freedom of expression, Ambassador Gronberg noted
that that the Chinese block some Internet search terms. MFA
International Organizations Director General Wu Hailong
launched into a lengthy background statement on the explosion
in Chinese Internet use since 1990. Wu denied that there is
"any censorship whatsoever" of news items in China. Censorship
is "practically impossible," Wu said, given the large number
of search queries. A moment later, Wu explained that the
Chinese government has banned "Taiwan" as a search term
because Internet users otherwise might use it to advance
"illegal separatist activities." XXXXX, also acknowledged
Chinese Internet censorship, but only in private conversation
on the margins of the dialogue.

4. (C) The atmosphere was equally tense during discussions of
criminal justice reform, XXXXX said. DG Wu read through a long
list of reforms and planned reforms, all of which were
previously known. When Ambassador Gronberg asked about
reported abuses in specific cases involving Chen Guangcheng,
Gao Zhisheng, and Hu Jia, XXXXX said DG Wu and DDG Shen "acted
as if mentioning these names was hitting under the belt." DG
Wu said individuals were being punished for violating the law,
not for expressing their opinions. He further said that there
is unprecedented freedom of speech in China.

5. (C) Wu said police are receiving new training in compliance
with UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak's
recommendations. On the other hand, XXXXX said DDG Shen
challenged the factual basis for some of Nowak's
recommendations. Shen said errors in translation caused Nowak
to mistakenly conclude that prisoners are subject to torture,
when in fact this is not the case. Shen said Nowak had been
"misled" by prisoners and other people he interviewed.

6. (C) A public security official present at the meetings said
Nowak mistakenly used the term "arbitrary detention" in
describing Chinese practice. She said Nowak should have
acknowledged that detentions in China are "according to law,"
though she did not address the question of whether Chinese law
is arbitrary. The public security official also said
"Reeducation-Through-Labor" is necessary in China, and is
"very likely to stay." DG Wu said an inter- department group
continues to work on ICCPR ratification, with some departments
holding the view that the ICCPR cannot be ratified because it
"totally contravenes Chinese law." The public security
official, though not going so far as to say that the ICCPR
cannot be ratified, said she is certain the ratified version
will include an exception allowing various forms of
administrative detention including RTL because they have a
"long and important tradition" in China.

7. (C) Tension relaxed to a degree when the topic turned to
combating racism, an item placed on the dialogue agenda by the
Chinese. According to XXXXX, DG Wu and DDG Shen raised
numerous examples of reported racism in Europe. The EU side
did not deny the cases or belittle the Chinese side's comments
about them which, XXXXX said, set a "good example" for the
Chinese and also improved the atmosphere at the meeting. XXXXX
said the Chinese "seemed to realize the EU really tried to
answer" their stated concerns about racism.

8. (C) Concerning claims of organ harvesting, DG Wu said that
assertions of mass organ harvesting of Falun Gong
practitioners are "outrageous" and that "many Americans are
furious about these lies." He said the Chinese Government is
likely to take up organ donation as a topic for further
legislative or regulatory action. (Note: British Emboff XXXXX
separately told poloff that Maurice Slapak, a British
transplant surgeon, is working with Chinese officials to
revise China's organ transplant regulations. The new
provisions, XXXXX said, will (a) require disclosure of
agreements by prisoners to donate organs; (b) prohibit the use
of organs originating in China in surgeries performed outside
the country; (c) encourage organ donation by Chinese citizens;
(d) set standards for determining whether a person is brain
dead; and (e) specify procedures for deciding what doctors and
hospitals can perform transplant surgeries. End note.)

9. (C) Ambassador Gronberg raised the September 30 shooting of
Tibetans at the Nangpa Pass, asking the Chinese for
clarification and to investigate the incident thoroughly. DG
Wu agreed to investigate and report back to the EU on thi
incident as information becomes available. However, he
cavalierly ascribed the incident to "normal border guard
behavior" and told EU human rights interlocutors he thought
their "border guards would have acted the same way." EU human
rights officials passed a list of 76 prisoner cases to the
Chinese several days before the dialogue. The EU received
substantive responses in 11 cases and the Chinese have
promised additional responses in other cases.

10. (C) EU Delegation Representative XXXXX said that Chinese
participants in the October 19 dialogue generally seemed more
confident than in previous China-EU dialogue rounds, and even
arrogant at times. As evidence of this, XXXXX said DG Wu
simply did not pay attention to EU interlocutors during some
of the discussions. DDG Shen, XXXXX said, even laughed at some
comments made by EU participants. Shen complained about the
Bern Process, saying that it "offends China's dignity." He
told the EU that it should withdraw from the Bern Process and
that pressure on the Chinese through this channel will be
"counterproductive."

Action Following Tibet Border Incident
----------------------------------------------------

11. (C) Several Embassies reported that they have raised
concerns about the September 30 shooting incident near Nangpa
Pass. Canadian Embassy XXXXX said the Canadian Government
raised the Tibet incident with the Chinese Embassy in Ottawa,
but has been stymied by MFA refusals to meet with Canadian
Embassy officials in Beijing. Swedish Emboff XXXXX reported
that the Swedish government raised the Tibet incident with FM
Li Zhaoxing on October 12. On October 16, a Swedish delegation
in Tibet raised the issue with local officials, who claimed
not to have heard of the incident. Australian Emboff XXXXX
said the Australian Embassy delivered a demarche on the Tibet
incident last week to the MFA.

12. (C) Other Embassies reported plans to raise the Tibet
incident with Chinese officials. Swiss Foreign Minister
Micheline Calmy-Rey will discuss the incident in October 27
meetings with FM Li. A German delegation will raise the
incident with MFA International Organizations officials during
the next round of the China-German human rights dialogue on
October 30 and 31. Norway and New Zealand, whose
representatives were not present at the October 26 human
rights watchers meeting, reportedly have either raised the
Tibet incident with Chinese officials or plan to do so soon.

Jia Qinglin Discusses Religion With Archbishop
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13. (C) British Emboff XXXXX reported on Archbishop of
Canterbury Rowan Williams' recent visit to China, which is the
third visit by a head of the Anglican Church to China. In an
October 19 meeting, CPPCC Chairman and Politburo member Jia
Qinglin told Williams that the formal "Decision" of the
Central Committee's recent Sixth Plenum contains the first
ever high-level Party pronouncement commenting positively on
the role of religion in China. The "Decision" on China's
future economic and social development passed this month
states: "we should strengthen the unity among the religious
masses, those without religious belief, and those believing in
different religions and bring the positive role of religion
into play in promoting social harmony." Jia told Williams that
religion can play an important role in China's efforts to
build a "harmonious society," though he also affirmed that
this role must be "according to law." In a separate meeting
with Assistant Foreign Minister Kong Quan, Kong told Williams
that the Dalai Lama's "hidden agenda" is Tibetan independence.

China Says It Will Not Cut Back On China-UK Dialogue
----------------------------------------------------

14. (C) Post earlier reported (reftel) that Chinese officials
told the British Embassy it will cut back the frequency of its
formal human rights dialogue with the United Kingdom to one
round per year. British Emboff XXXXX said CPPCC Chair Jia told
British Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer on October 25 that the
number of rounds will remain at two per year. XXXXX believes
Jia's statement reflects recognition among senior Chinese
officials of the "political value" of dialogue, which trumps
lower-level MFA officials' "working level" preference for
fewer rounds.

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