C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 PARIS 001561 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/02/2017 TAGS: UNSC, PGOV, PREL, PBTS, EUN, FR, GE, RU, GG SUBJECT: WORKING WITH FRANCE TO ADVANCE A SOLUTION TO THE CONFLICT IN GEORGIA (UNSCR AND GAERC) REF: A. SECSTATE 86108 B. SECSTATE 86130 PARIS 00001561 001.2 OF 002 Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Kathleen H. Allegrone. Rea sons 1.4b,d 1. (C) Summary: Embassy Paris raised Reftels UNSCR points (State 86130) and points for the August 12 GAERC (State 86108) with multiple counterparts at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs after Russia declared it would stop hostilities, but before the Sarkozy/Medvedev meeting concluded. France welcomed the close coordination with the USG on a Security Council resolution and expressed optimism that a favorable outcome could be achieved. On the GAERC points, the French were largely in agreement with U.S. objectives while noting a strong desire to secure EU unity early in the process so as to support the effort to broker a settlement led by the French President and Foreign Minister in tandem with the OSCE. We noted the need to combat a Russian public diplomacy effort to minimize Russian violations of Georgian sovereignty and reiterated the need for European and U.S. unity in the face of Russia's disproportionate response to Georgian actions. End Summary. 2. (C) Post raised Georgia demarche points (Ref A State 86108) on the afternoon of August 12 with MFA DAS-equivalent for Eurasia Alexandre Vulic, who said that France's goal for the August 13 extraordinary GAERC meeting is a demonstration of EU unity. Regarding the U.S. hopes for an EU statement, as expressed in State 86108, Vulic expressed broad agreement on the five points. He described the first two points, on Georgia's sovereignty and humanitarian concerns, as non-controversial. He said the third point, regarding withdrawal of Russian military personnel, needed to be clarified as applying to forces entered since the beginning of hostilities, not prior peacekeeping forces. On the fourth point, a call for immediate negotiations, he said that there could be nuances depending on how much success FM Kouchner has to report at the GAERC from French diplomatic efforts thus far. Vulic identified the final point as most controversial within the EU, since there is not internal consensus about what the crisis means for EU-Russia relations, let alone how much to say publicly. Vulic agreed to provide a readout following tomorrow's meeting. 3. (C) Vulic said not much information was available yet in Paris about today's ongoing discussions in Moscow and Tbilisi, but that they were not necessarily going well due in part to Russian demands related to questions like Georgia's renunciation of the use of force. He said that the GAERC should produce an expression of support for either an agreement, if one has been reached before the August 13 GAERC, or if not, for the mediation effort. He asked for our assessment of whether fighting is ongoing since Medvedev's declaration of the end of hostilities, about the current presence of Russian forces in Georgia beyond South Ossetia, and what we think Russia's final goal is (what are they buying time for; how could they force the departure of Saakashvili). Vulic agreed on the importance of U.S.-EU coherence, thanked us for our support of French mediation efforts, and said the French looked forward to our continued cooperation for a UNSC resolution, if the current French mediation is unsuccessful. Vulic expressed interest in how long DAS Bryza will remain in Georgia, the state of U.S. humanitarian efforts and what steps the USG was contemplating to follow on President's August 11 statement regarding Russian relations with the United States. 4. (C) We also raised reftel points with Nicole Michelangeli, Deputy Director for European Cooperation. With the situation fluid, Michelangeli was cautious about French plans/expectations for the Wednesday GAERC. She described some Europeans as being more "en point" than others and noted PARIS 00001561 002.2 OF 002 "certain nuances" that seemed to correspond to previous history with Russia or sharing a long border. Hence some countries -- Poland and the Baltic states -- were more "anti-Russian" than "others" (she specifically mentioned Portugal, Italy, and Germany, which she described as more cautious). Michelangeli was unsure whether the Ministers would issue a concluding statement, or whether the meeting would primarily be used by Kouchner to brief on his and Sarkozy's visits to Moscow and Tbilisi, others to discuss what they have been doing, and have a general exchange of views including a discussion of next steps, including in the humanitarian domain. However, she said almost all of the EU partners (Luxembourg and Portugal still haven,t commented) had responded positively to Sarkozy,s initiative and travel to Moscow and Tbilisi. 5. (C) Post raised Georgia UNSCR points (Ref B State 86130) with PDAS equivalent for International Organizations Marc Giacomini on the afternoon on August 12. Giacomini expressed optimism that passage of a resolution was possible. He confirmed the French Mission is working closely with the U.S. and UK missions in New York to refine the text of the draft UNSCR towards this end. In terms of Council votes, the French believed nine favorable votes are not out of reach: Costa Rica supports while Panama, and Burkina Faso show positive signs of being open to US arguments; They count on China abstain; South Africa is being discrete. The French consider Indonesia, Libya, and Vietnam, as has been the case in the past would be harder to convince. France is currently seeking support of other UNSC members in New York but intends to demarche Capitals beginning on August 13. The French welcomed our outreach to these capitals and noted they judged individual demarches rather than joint P3 demarched as the potentially most effective tactic. Discussing potential next steps, Giacomini described Russian impediments to a resolution would likely center on the nature of engagement and non-use of force guarantees, and probably will not founder on talks of an international tribunal. In terms of operative mechanisms in the post-conflict situation, he said the French would be looking first at the UN, OSCE, and possibly the EU*although at this point they concede it is too early for EU consensus and involvement*and cautioning against a NATO role, given Russian concerns. 6. (C) In all these meetings we stressed the need for France and the EU work closely with us in this matter, and particularly to avoid comments that would show disunity of views or that would seem to throw responsibility wrongly on us for any of the recent events. Referring to a comment to a reporter by FM Kouchner on August 11 suggesting the U.S. was a party to the conflict in Georgia, PolCounselor noted that while Russia was clearly a party to the conflict, the USG should not itself a party to the conflict. Giacomini observed FM Kouchner made this remark in the context of underscoring the European role in brokering a ceasefire and reiterated French appreciation for U.S. support. Giacomini added the situation was fluid on the ground in Georgia, in Moscow and in New York. 7. (C) Comment: We were struck by the French view that the UNSCR resolution could avoid a Russian veto. Please visit Paris' Classified Website at: http://www.intelink.sgov.gov/wiki/Portal:Fran ce STAPLETON